Wednesday, July 12, 2006

Accident or Crime?

Consider these events:

Joe is a young man, a college student, and by all accounts hard-working, honest, and just plain pleasant to be around. His several girlfriends adore him, and his fellow students tend to think Joe will be one of the class’s success stories.

Joe is a fun-loving guy, and this past July 4th he had a party at his house in a rural area just outside the town of Jamul. Right after he and his guests ate their all-American barbeque dinner, they went out on the patio and sang a rousing and heart-felt (though not very competent) rendition of “The Star-Spangled Banner”. Joe punctuated each stanza by firing his rifle into the air. Then Joe and his guests went back inside to watch a soccer game on TV.

A half mile from Joe’s house, Sam and Sophie live in a little bungalow with their two kids. Sophie was outside watering the patio plants, when a rifle bullet fell from the sky, penetrating her skull and killing her (and her unborn baby girl) instantly.

Police traced the bullet to Joe’s rifle.

The story above is fiction, but I wrote it as background for this question: how should Joe’s actions be thought of and treated — as an accident or as a crime? My fictional story deliberately avoided anything to do with cars, because somehow we seem to think about deaths and injuries involving cars differently than just about anything else.

To me, this is a no-brainer: Joe knew darned well that firing a gun is dangerous, and that injury or damage could result. But he made the choice to fire his gun anyway, despite knowing the danger of doing so — the epitome of reckless behavior. My own take would be that Joe should be held fully accountable for his criminal action that resulted in Sophie’s death — this was no accident.

Judging from the comments to my posts about the very similar issues that arise in the case of Jonny Dallo and Jodi Burnett (see here, here, here, and here), some of my readers hold a very different view. They would say that Joe is a good kid, that it makes no sense in such a tragic situation to ruin two lives, that Joe didn’t intend to kill Sophie — therefore Joe’s punishment should be much lighter than what I would advocate, possibly with no jail time at all.

But I wonder if these apologists for Jonny Dallo would actually apply the same logic to Joe’s actions that led to Sophie’s death. In particular, I wonder if their reactions to Jonny’s actions leading to Jodi’s death are colored by the fact that they know Jonny — in other words, that they are reacting emotionally, mainly in sympathy with Jonny, and their statements reflect that, rather than a general belief that reckless behavior shouldn’t be severely punished.

Here’s a thought experiment for the commenters who believe Jonny should not be severely punished: suppose you were Sam (Sophie’s husband), or Sam’s neighbor Sally. How would you feel about the death of Sophie and her baby? Would you think about it as an accident, or as a crime? Would you think it proper to punish Joe severely? Or would you say there’s no point to such punishment, and Joe should be punished lightly, or not at all?

I hope it’s true that even the Jonny Dallo apologists would agree that Joe should be held criminally accountable — this would restore some of my faith in my fellow citizens. It’s totally understandable that Jonny’s friends and family would want to stand up for him, and that they’d find it almost impossible to accept that severe punishment was what he deserved. But nobody knows my fictional Joe, Sam, or Sophie … so anyone thinking about this story should be able to do so without the bias of a pre-existing relationship.

So how about it, readers? Anyone willing to take the thought experiment, and comment on it?

13 comments:

  1. In the old blog, Anonymous said:
    There is case law on this issue .. it happened in Los Angeles a few years ago.I am not sure of the outcome in civil court but in criminal court the guy shooting the gun went to jail I think on three criminal counts

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  2. In the old blog, Simon said:
    Seems like a very simple issue to me. It’s a question of responsibility. Are human beings responsible for their actions or not? Let’s say Joe takes responsiblity for his actions and says, “I shot my gun in the air and the bullet killed Sophie and her unborn baby girl. I didn’t intend to harm anyone, I’m 100 percent responsible for my actions, and I’m deeply sorry. Sam, I beg your forgiveness.” Now what?

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  3. Now what, indeed!

    Your comment reads as though you think the apology should be the end of it, and that there should be no punishment of Joe. Is that what you really meant to say? Because the answer to that question is exactly what I’m looking for opinions about…

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  4. In the old blog, Simon said:
    No. That isn’t what I meant at all! We choose to live in the U.S.A. That choice implies that we are willing to live by the laws of this great land. When any law is broken the consequences should be determined by the law. Of course there is always interpretation of those specified consequences. But I’m not really all that interested in the punishment. Punishments, like mileage, may vary. I’m more concerned about the survivors, Joe and Sam. Without forgiveness, neither will have much of a life to live. Let’s say the law says incarcerate Joe for 20 years without the possibility of parole. If Joe has a fair trial and 20 years is the judgment that is handed down, I’m fine with that. Sam has his pound of flesh but what will his life be like without forgiveness?

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  5. Interesting take, especially on the forgiveness. That’s not a topic I’ve spent much time thinking about, probably because it’s so very hard for me to imagine being forgiving in that context…

    One more question for you, if you don’t mind. You say that with regard to punishment, you’re happy to accept the consequences according to the law, and the jury’s findings. But…what would provoke you to believe there was a need to change the laws? For example, if the laws currently read that the maximum sentence in the situation we’re discussing was a $100 fine and 5 days in jail, would you still be ok with the consequences under that law, and not feel the need for a change?

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  6. In the old blog, Simon said:
    I can’t say that I’ve ever thought much about the need for change in the law. I think the law is always changing. Your question seems like a red herring to me but I’ll answer it anyway . The subject of this post is Accident or Crime? My take is that it is clearly a crime. Since I choose to be governed by the laws of the U.S.A., I’m fine with the judgment whatever it may be.

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  7. In the old blog, Anonymous said:
    The fact is that Joe decided to shoot off that gun and put a life at risk. He should be held accountable for that. But, the real question is, would these people who support Joe, or Jonny Dallo feel the same way if it were their family member involved? I guarantee that if Jonny’s mother had been killed the way Jodi was, Jonny’s family would have been screaming for justice and saying that it was an choice, not an accident. Funny how things look so different on the other side of the fence.

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  8. In the old blog, Anonymous said:
    The fact is that Joe decided to shoot off that gun and put a life at risk. He should be held accountable for that. But, the real question is, would these people who support Joe, or Jonny Dallo feel the same way if it were their family member involved? I guarantee that if Jonny’s mother had been killed the way Jodi was, Jonny’s family would have been screaming for justice and saying that it was an choice, not an accident. Funny how things look so different on the other side of the fence.

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  9. In the old blog, Anonymous said:
    I am friends with Jonny and I guess you can call me an “apologists for Jonny Dallo.” For one thing when we say Jonny is a good kid we are not excusing him of what he did. Jonny should have consequences. That is what your friends are for I mean if I did something wrong I hope my family and friends stick it out with me. I think he should be punished but if you go in to “what if it was your mom or your friend” then are laws will never work. I mean every case is different, there are many people who do not believe in the death penalty but what is your family was the victim? I bet your view would change. I give my support to Jonny as a friend but yes what he did was wrong! If you break the law you should be punished no matter what. Joe should and so should Jonny!

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  10. In the old blog, Anonymous said:
    Regarding the above comment…I’m glad to hear that at least one of Jonny’s friends is willing to say he should be punished for his choice of actions. Thank you for not excusing his actions as a simple accident.

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  11. In the old blog, Anonymous said:
    da

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  12. Thank you for this comment. A response from Jonny’s friends is exactly what I was looking for.
    I’ve commented on this in a separate post.

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  13. In the old blog, Anonymous said:
    Thank you

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